Discussion:
Problem in inserting braces with italian keyboard
pnunbe
2008-03-10 13:42:45 UTC
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Hi,

I am using an italian keyboard, where braces ({,}) are not present.

In every other application I can insert braces via the ALT-123 and ALT
-125 combinations, but TeXnicCenter's editor displays a question mark in
both cases.

What is going on?



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Alain Delmotte
2008-03-25 08:19:52 UTC
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Hello,

This is an old problem (not with the braces but with tilde.
See below the copy of messages from 2004!!!

I hope this helps (especially the last message).

Regards,

Alain Delmotte
Post by pnunbe
Hi,
I am using an italian keyboard, where braces ({,}) are not present.
In every other application I can insert braces via the ALT-123 and ALT
-125 combinations, but TeXnicCenter's editor displays a question mark in
both cases.
What is going on?
From: Eric Schechter <eric.schechter-***@public.gmane.org>
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 08:51:24 -0500
Subject: [TXC-Users] free programs for ascii codes (?)

Although it would be preferable to be able to enter ascii codes directly
through TxC,
until the problem is fixed one might (as a temporary remedy) use some
other programs
for that purpose.

Here are three small, free programs which might be useful for entering
ascii codes.
I don't know if they will serve your needs, since I don't use accented
letters in
my source files. I hope that at least one of these will be useful to people
who need accents.

MapOfChars
http://www.coolwintools.com/freeware.php3

FlashPaste lite
http://softvoile.com/flashpaste.php

ascii.exe
http://members.tripod.com/Diskonnected/products/ascii.html

Best regards,
Eric Schechter

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From: Bostjan Strumbelj <sponka9-/***@public.gmane.org>
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 18:56:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TXC-Users] Re: ASCII CODES

Hi!

If I'm not wrong european keyboard definitions use AltGr as right Alt
key (this won't work with US
keyboard, since it's "plain" Alt key by default).

My keyboard (slovene/slovenian) have ~ mapped to AltGr+1.

I'm pretty sure that italian/french or any other european keyboard also
use AltGr --> on my german MS
InternetKeyboard ~ is mapped to AltGr+ +.

b.
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From: "Manuel" <manuel.toniato-***@public.gmane.org>
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 09:53:30 +0200
Subject: [TXC-Users] Other combinations for italian keyboard

Thanks for the suggestion but I've tried every combination with AltGR
and no one give me the tilde.
Instead there are other useful combinations:
- AltGr-Shift-è -> {
- AltGr-Shift-+ -> }
- AltGr-E -> €

Bye!
Manuel
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From: "Bostjan Strumbelj" <sponka9-/***@public.gmane.org>
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 12:23:30 -0000
Subject: [TXC-Users] Re: Other combinations for italian keyboard

I forgot to tell that AltGr is sam as Alt+Ctrl :/

As I can see in my instalation (WinXP, english) there are 2 Italian layouts:

- Italian
- Italian (142)

They have different mappings:

Italian:

AltGr e` -> [
AltGr + -> ]
AltGr e -> €
AltGr 5 -> €
AltGr o` -> @
AltGr a` -> #
AltGr-Shift e` -> {
AltGr-Shift + -> }

... and no tilde (~) at all


Italian (142):

AltGr 3 -> #
AltGr 5 -> €
AltGr 7 -> {
AltGr 8 -> [
AltGr 9 -> ]
AltGr 0 -> }
AltGr q -> @
AltGr e -> €
AltGr + -> ~
AltGr u` -> `


And, hope it's not way of topic, but ...

Microsoft have free program "Keyboard layout Creator", it's available
from http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/tools/msklc.mspx

With that program one can make own keyboard layout, with custom mapped
characters. Also, you can preview existing layouts (that's what I
did).

Works only with Windows 2000, Windows XP, or Windows Server 2003!

If you dare, try it, you can always reverse to "bundled" layouts.

Regards,
b.
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From: "Manuel Toniato" <manuel.toniato-***@public.gmane.org>
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 10:09:57 +0200
Subject: [TXC-Users] Modified Italian Keyboard (if anybody needs it)

Thanks to Bostjan's suggestion I downloaded MKLC and created a new
keyboard layout based on original Italian keyboard layout.

These are the combination I added:
- AltGr-ù -> ~
- AltGr-' -> `
- AltGr-Shift-A -> À
- AltGr-Shift-E -> È
- AltGr-Shift-I -> Ì
- AltGr-Shift-O -> Ò
- AltGr-Shift-U -> Ù

If anybody needs it, he can download it from:
http://myserverftp.interfree.it/italian.zip (13K)

Bye!
Manuel




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Giangiacomo Bravo
2008-03-25 16:38:33 UTC
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I'm using an italian keyboard. It is easy to insert braces:
AltGr + Shift + [ produces {
AltGr + Shift + ] produces }
Unfortunately, I know no straightforward solution for the tilde.
Best,
Giangiacomo
Post by Alain Delmotte
Hello,
This is an old problem (not with the braces but with tilde.
See below the copy of messages from 2004!!!
I hope this helps (especially the last message).
Regards,
Alain Delmotte
Post by pnunbe
Hi,
I am using an italian keyboard, where braces ({,}) are not present.
In every other application I can insert braces via the ALT-123 and ALT
-125 combinations, but TeXnicCenter's editor displays a question mark in
both cases.
What is going on?
From: Eric Schechter
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 08:51:24 -0500
Subject: [TXC-Users] free programs for ascii codes (?)
Although it would be preferable to be able to enter ascii codes directly
through TxC,
until the problem is fixed one might (as a temporary remedy) use some
other programs
for that purpose.
Here are three small, free programs which might be useful for entering
ascii codes.
I don't know if they will serve your needs, since I don't use accented
letters in
my source files. I hope that at least one of these will be useful to people
who need accents.
MapOfChars
<http://www.coolwintools.com/freeware.php3>http://www.coolwintools.com/freeware.php3
FlashPaste lite
<http://softvoile.com/flashpaste.php>http://softvoile.com/flashpaste.php
ascii.exe
<http://members.tripod.com/Diskonnected/products/ascii.html>http://members.tripod.com/Diskonnected/products/ascii.html
Best regards,
Eric Schechter
=========
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 18:56:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TXC-Users] Re: ASCII CODES
Hi!
If I'm not wrong european keyboard definitions use AltGr as right Alt
key (this won't work with US
keyboard, since it's "plain" Alt key by default).
My keyboard (slovene/slovenian) have ~ mapped to AltGr+1.
I'm pretty sure that italian/french or any other european keyboard also
use AltGr --> on my german MS
InternetKeyboard ~ is mapped to AltGr+ +.
b.
========
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 09:53:30 +0200
Subject: [TXC-Users] Other combinations for italian keyboard
Thanks for the suggestion but I've tried every combination with AltGR
and no one give me the tilde.
- AltGr-Shift-è -> {
- AltGr-Shift-+ -> }
- AltGr-E -> €
Bye!
Manuel
=========
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 12:23:30 -0000
Subject: [TXC-Users] Re: Other combinations for italian keyboard
I forgot to tell that AltGr is sam as Alt+Ctrl :/
- Italian
- Italian (142)
AltGr e` -> [
AltGr + -> ]
AltGr e -> €
AltGr 5 -> €
AltGr a` -> #
AltGr-Shift e` -> {
AltGr-Shift + -> }
... and no tilde (~) at all
AltGr 3 -> #
AltGr 5 -> €
AltGr 7 -> {
AltGr 8 -> [
AltGr 9 -> ]
AltGr 0 -> }
AltGr e -> €
AltGr + -> ~
AltGr u` -> `
And, hope it's not way of topic, but ...
Microsoft have free program "Keyboard layout Creator", it's available
from
<http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/tools/msklc.mspx>http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/tools/msklc.mspx
With that program one can make own keyboard layout, with custom mapped
characters. Also, you can preview existing layouts (that's what I
did).
Works only with Windows 2000, Windows XP, or Windows Server 2003!
If you dare, try it, you can always reverse to "bundled" layouts.
Regards,
b.
===========
From: "Manuel Toniato"
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 10:09:57 +0200
Subject: [TXC-Users] Modified Italian Keyboard (if anybody needs it)
Thanks to Bostjan's suggestion I downloaded MKLC and created a new
keyboard layout based on original Italian keyboard layout.
- AltGr-ù -> ~
- AltGr-' -> `
- AltGr-Shift-A -> À
- AltGr-Shift-E -> È
- AltGr-Shift-I -> Ì
- AltGr-Shift-O -> Ò
- AltGr-Shift-U -> Ù
<http://myserverftp.interfree.it/italian.zip>http://myserverftp.interfree.it/italian.zip
(13K)
Bye!
Manuel
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